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José es muy preocupante.
Cada vez es una parte proporcional mayor de Israel y se enfrenta con el sector laico israelí, pero la ultraderecha de Bibi les pagan sus estudios biblícos, no les obliga al servicio militar obligatorio y las leyes en materia de derechos de las mujeres y demás se aplica muy laxamente.
Saludos

Entonces van camino inexorable de convertirse en Palestina...

Que Palestina???? Porque gracias a Israel no hay un Estado Palestino, está Gaza gobernado por Hamás y está Cisjordania cogobernado entre Al Fatah e Israel.
Y en la OLP las mujeres estaban en la vanguardia de la lucha.
Y las leyes en materia de derechos humanos se aplican más laxamente hacia unas mujeres frente a otras dentro de un mismo Estado.
Y ya le gustaría al pueblo israelí parecerse en lo más mínimo al pueblo palestino.
Así que el comentario que acabas de añadir es para no variar un sinsentido.

Y si tuvieran un Estado en la condición actual, ¿tendrían a Hamas en el poder o a un partido socialdemócrata super híper mega guay como el PSOE?

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Entonces van camino inexorable de convertirse en Palestina...

Que Palestina???? Porque gracias a Israel no hay un Estado Palestino, está Gaza gobernado por Hamás y está Cisjordania cogobernado entre Al Fatah e Israel.
Y en la OLP las mujeres estaban en la vanguardia de la lucha.
Y las leyes en materia de derechos humanos se aplican más laxamente hacia unas mujeres frente a otras dentro de un mismo Estado.
Y ya le gustaría al pueblo israelí parecerse en lo más mínimo al pueblo palestino.
Así que el comentario que acabas de añadir es para no variar un sinsentido.

Y si tuvieran un Estado en la condición actual, ¿tendrían a Hamas en el poder o a un partido socialdemócrata super híper mega guay como el PSOE?

Por otra parte es cuestionable que el poder de Hamas en Gaza no sea el poder de un Estado, así sea en una forma primitiva.

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 que no se puede decir que conforme un Estado soberano según los criterios internacionales.

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 no podía tener relaciones diplomáticas y económicas con ningún Estado porque Israel lo ha aislado como si fuera un campo de concentración

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 No sé cuál sería el gobierno de un hipotético Estado palestino

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 tu mismo dices tiene la justificación de aniquilar a todo palestino, sea civil, niño, anciano, destruir hospitales, escuelas y toda infraestructura con tal de desmantelar a Hamás.

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Avicena escribió: ↑13 Nov 2023 11:16 https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/s ... 79622.html
Es curioso que en Reino unido la extrema derecha no sea tan supremacista blanca como en otros países de Europa.
Ministra de interior que critica a la policía por permitir manifestaciones propalestinas.

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 07:24 https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status ... 6852893702

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Es curioso que en Reino unido la extrema derecha no sea tan supremacista blanca como en otros países de Europa.
Ministra de interior que critica a la policía por permitir manifestaciones propalestinas.

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

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Shaiapouf escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:43

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 que no se puede decir que conforme un Estado soberano según los criterios internacionales.

¿Y cuáles son esos criterios internacionales?

Porque bien que hablamos de Estados de factos cuando nos acogemos a definir casos en otros horizontes, no veo por qué aquí no.

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 no podía tener relaciones diplomáticas y económicas con ningún Estado porque Israel lo ha aislado como si fuera un campo de concentración

¿Que un Estado bloquee a otro es suficiente para decir que el Estado bloqueado deja de ser Estado?

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 No sé cuál sería el gobierno de un hipotético Estado palestino

¿Y te piensas que son las mismas posibilidades que escojan a un socdem chuperguay que a Hamas?

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 tu mismo dices tiene la justificación de aniquilar a todo palestino, sea civil, niño, anciano, destruir hospitales, escuelas y toda infraestructura con tal de desmantelar a Hamás.

¿Por qué mentís?

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8) ¿Cuántos palestinos tienen que morir? Pues si con ello exterminamos el cáncer de Hamas y el yihadismo en la zona, los que hagan falta, lógicamente. Así como acabar con el zarismo implicó millones de muertes.

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Avicena escribió: ↑15 Nov 2023 12:53

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 que no se puede decir que conforme un Estado soberano según los criterios internacionales.

¿Y cuáles son esos criterios internacionales?

Porque bien que hablamos de Estados de factos cuando nos acogemos a definir casos en otros horizontes, no veo por qué aquí no.

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 no podía tener relaciones diplomáticas y económicas con ningún Estado porque Israel lo ha aislado como si fuera un campo de concentración

¿Que un Estado bloquee a otro es suficiente para decir que el Estado bloqueado deja de ser Estado?

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 No sé cuál sería el gobierno de un hipotético Estado palestino

¿Y te piensas que son las mismas posibilidades que escojan a un socdem chuperguay que a Hamas?

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Avicena escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 00:10 tu mismo dices tiene la justificación de aniquilar a todo palestino, sea civil, niño, anciano, destruir hospitales, escuelas y toda infraestructura con tal de desmantelar a Hamás.

¿Por qué mentís?

Shaiapouf dixit

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8) ¿Cuántos palestinos tienen que morir? Pues si con ello exterminamos el cáncer de Hamas y el yihadismo en la zona, los que hagan falta, lógicamente. Así como acabar con el zarismo implicó millones de muertes.

Porque mientes y me llamas mentiroso?

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Avicena escribió: ↑15 Nov 2023 12:46

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Avicena escribió: ↑13 Nov 2023 11:16 https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/s ... 79622.html
Es curioso que en Reino unido la extrema derecha no sea tan supremacista blanca como en otros países de Europa.
Ministra de interior que critica a la policía por permitir manifestaciones propalestinas.

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 06:34

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Avicena escribió: ↑13 Nov 2023 11:16 https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/s ... 79622.html
Es curioso que en Reino unido la extrema derecha no sea tan supremacista blanca como en otros países de Europa.
Ministra de interior que critica a la policía por permitir manifestaciones propalestinas.

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 06:34

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Avicena escribió: ↑13 Nov 2023 11:16 https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/s ... 79622.html
Es curioso que en Reino unido la extrema derecha no sea tan supremacista blanca como en otros países de Europa.
Ministra de interior que critica a la policía por permitir manifestaciones propalestinas.

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

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Avicena escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 11:34

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 06:46

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

Hombre de paja

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Regshoe escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 13:42

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑14 Nov 2023 06:46

Teniendo en cuenta el tinte de las manifestaciones propalestinas... "From the river to the sea" super pacifista.... "khaybar khaybar"...

y en alguna hasta ponen muertos.

Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

Los niños muertos de Hamás también.

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A Message to Khaled Meshaal
To Mr. Khaled Meshaal, I will address you as Abu Al-Walid. In your interview with Al Arabiya broadcaster, you touched on several issues, political, historical, and religious. Your rhetoric was neither coherent nor consistent, but like that of a messenger. I will not dwell on the political matters you discussed, as they are well-established.

Abu Al-Walid, I will focus on your religious rhetoric and your citations of the Holy Quran and the words of the Prophet - peace be upon him. I am not a preacher or a sheikh, but a father who fears that religion could be manipulated to misguide his children. I am worried that they might listen to you and believe that you are being truthful when you are not.

I say this because I have witnessed the various stages of your misleading and inciting discourse. Our experiences have taught us that these lies have misled youth into the abyss of terrorism and extremism, becoming fodder for failed battles. This happened from Afghanistan, which you take as a reference, to Palestine, whose cause you have tarnished.

Abu Al-Walid, you speak about the Prophet striking with the spade in the Battle of the Trench, forgetting that he stood spade in hand on the battlefield, surrounded by his Companions; he was not living a comfortable life in another country like you are in Doha.

You ask the "Ummah" to "play with fire" and march to the borders, while you are far away. Why don't you march to the borders of Gaza, even just to hand water out to those who have gone? Go and do it. If the Egyptian authorities prevent you; I promise to write an article condemning them for doing so.

And you cite the verse: "Permission has been granted to those being fought, for they have been wronged" - a Makkan-Medinan verse revealed to the Prophet in Medinah after he had spent 13 years in Makkah without calling for the use of force. The Prophet did not call for battle until after he had the support and strength of the Ansar (Supporters) in Medinah, and he did not recklessly send the Muslims to their demise. This verse was revealed in Medinah.

We are taught that the Prophet refused, when asked for permission to do so, to allow the killing of those who had harmed the Muslims in Makkah before the Hijrah (migration). The Almighty revealed the following verse to address this question: God does not love any of the treacherous, ungrateful ones.

When the family of Yasir was tortured, and Ammar witnessed the killing of his parents, the Prophet did not ask for revenge. Rather, he behaved like a great leader who sees the greater good. To prevent bloodshed, saying: "Patience, O family of Yasir! Your meeting place will be Paradise."

And you, Abu Al-Walid, did not fight the Israelis but the Palestinians themselves. The first thing you did after the Gaza elections was to throw members of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority off the rooftops; this is a documented fact.

These are the facts, Abu Al-Walid. Nothing can be more dangerous and harmful than taking matters out of their context in moments of passion, especially since honest people sympathize with the innocent people of Gaza not with you or Hamas.

Nothing is more dangerous than citing the Quran and the Prophet to mislead, especially through populist rhetoric that harms the reputation of Muslims and Islam, as Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had done.

I am not a sheikh but a father who worries for his children. I always teach them that the noble Prophet had set terms and ethics even for conflict. My advice, Abu Al-Walid, is thus that you focus on your adventures. Engage in them however you want, but do not throw the Quran, religion, and the Prophet into these discussions.

In conclusion, Salam

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Prohibamos las manifestaciones, dice Israel mientras masacra a los palestinos.

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

Los niños muertos de Hamás también.

los niños israelies q no le importan q ha matado Hamas o los niños palestinos q ha matado Hamas y tp le importan?

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A Message to Khaled Meshaal
To Mr. Khaled Meshaal, I will address you as Abu Al-Walid. In your interview with Al Arabiya broadcaster, you touched on several issues, political, historical, and religious. Your rhetoric was neither coherent nor consistent, but like that of a messenger. I will not dwell on the political matters you discussed, as they are well-established.

Abu Al-Walid, I will focus on your religious rhetoric and your citations of the Holy Quran and the words of the Prophet - peace be upon him. I am not a preacher or a sheikh, but a father who fears that religion could be manipulated to misguide his children. I am worried that they might listen to you and believe that you are being truthful when you are not.

I say this because I have witnessed the various stages of your misleading and inciting discourse. Our experiences have taught us that these lies have misled youth into the abyss of terrorism and extremism, becoming fodder for failed battles. This happened from Afghanistan, which you take as a reference, to Palestine, whose cause you have tarnished.

Abu Al-Walid, you speak about the Prophet striking with the spade in the Battle of the Trench, forgetting that he stood spade in hand on the battlefield, surrounded by his Companions; he was not living a comfortable life in another country like you are in Doha.

You ask the "Ummah" to "play with fire" and march to the borders, while you are far away. Why don't you march to the borders of Gaza, even just to hand water out to those who have gone? Go and do it. If the Egyptian authorities prevent you; I promise to write an article condemning them for doing so.

And you cite the verse: "Permission has been granted to those being fought, for they have been wronged" - a Makkan-Medinan verse revealed to the Prophet in Medinah after he had spent 13 years in Makkah without calling for the use of force. The Prophet did not call for battle until after he had the support and strength of the Ansar (Supporters) in Medinah, and he did not recklessly send the Muslims to their demise. This verse was revealed in Medinah.

We are taught that the Prophet refused, when asked for permission to do so, to allow the killing of those who had harmed the Muslims in Makkah before the Hijrah (migration). The Almighty revealed the following verse to address this question: God does not love any of the treacherous, ungrateful ones.

When the family of Yasir was tortured, and Ammar witnessed the killing of his parents, the Prophet did not ask for revenge. Rather, he behaved like a great leader who sees the greater good. To prevent bloodshed, saying: "Patience, O family of Yasir! Your meeting place will be Paradise."

And you, Abu Al-Walid, did not fight the Israelis but the Palestinians themselves. The first thing you did after the Gaza elections was to throw members of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority off the rooftops; this is a documented fact.

These are the facts, Abu Al-Walid. Nothing can be more dangerous and harmful than taking matters out of their context in moments of passion, especially since honest people sympathize with the innocent people of Gaza not with you or Hamas.

Nothing is more dangerous than citing the Quran and the Prophet to mislead, especially through populist rhetoric that harms the reputation of Muslims and Islam, as Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had done.

I am not a sheikh but a father who worries for his children. I always teach them that the noble Prophet had set terms and ethics even for conflict. My advice, Abu Al-Walid, is thus that you focus on your adventures. Engage in them however you want, but do not throw the Quran, religion, and the Prophet into these discussions.

In conclusion, Salam

https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/4620 ... ed-meshaal

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 06:34

Pobre preocupado por Hamas

https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/sjwfjnomt

Los niños muertos de Hamás también.

los niños israelies q no le importan q ha matado Hamas o los niños palestinos q ha matado Hamas y tp le importan?

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A Message to Khaled Meshaal
To Mr. Khaled Meshaal, I will address you as Abu Al-Walid. In your interview with Al Arabiya broadcaster, you touched on several issues, political, historical, and religious. Your rhetoric was neither coherent nor consistent, but like that of a messenger. I will not dwell on the political matters you discussed, as they are well-established.

Abu Al-Walid, I will focus on your religious rhetoric and your citations of the Holy Quran and the words of the Prophet - peace be upon him. I am not a preacher or a sheikh, but a father who fears that religion could be manipulated to misguide his children. I am worried that they might listen to you and believe that you are being truthful when you are not.

I say this because I have witnessed the various stages of your misleading and inciting discourse. Our experiences have taught us that these lies have misled youth into the abyss of terrorism and extremism, becoming fodder for failed battles. This happened from Afghanistan, which you take as a reference, to Palestine, whose cause you have tarnished.

Abu Al-Walid, you speak about the Prophet striking with the spade in the Battle of the Trench, forgetting that he stood spade in hand on the battlefield, surrounded by his Companions; he was not living a comfortable life in another country like you are in Doha.

You ask the "Ummah" to "play with fire" and march to the borders, while you are far away. Why don't you march to the borders of Gaza, even just to hand water out to those who have gone? Go and do it. If the Egyptian authorities prevent you; I promise to write an article condemning them for doing so.

And you cite the verse: "Permission has been granted to those being fought, for they have been wronged" - a Makkan-Medinan verse revealed to the Prophet in Medinah after he had spent 13 years in Makkah without calling for the use of force. The Prophet did not call for battle until after he had the support and strength of the Ansar (Supporters) in Medinah, and he did not recklessly send the Muslims to their demise. This verse was revealed in Medinah.

We are taught that the Prophet refused, when asked for permission to do so, to allow the killing of those who had harmed the Muslims in Makkah before the Hijrah (migration). The Almighty revealed the following verse to address this question: God does not love any of the treacherous, ungrateful ones.

When the family of Yasir was tortured, and Ammar witnessed the killing of his parents, the Prophet did not ask for revenge. Rather, he behaved like a great leader who sees the greater good. To prevent bloodshed, saying: "Patience, O family of Yasir! Your meeting place will be Paradise."

And you, Abu Al-Walid, did not fight the Israelis but the Palestinians themselves. The first thing you did after the Gaza elections was to throw members of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority off the rooftops; this is a documented fact.

These are the facts, Abu Al-Walid. Nothing can be more dangerous and harmful than taking matters out of their context in moments of passion, especially since honest people sympathize with the innocent people of Gaza not with you or Hamas.

Nothing is more dangerous than citing the Quran and the Prophet to mislead, especially through populist rhetoric that harms the reputation of Muslims and Islam, as Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had done.

I am not a sheikh but a father who worries for his children. I always teach them that the noble Prophet had set terms and ethics even for conflict. My advice, Abu Al-Walid, is thus that you focus on your adventures. Engage in them however you want, but do not throw the Quran, religion, and the Prophet into these discussions.

In conclusion, Salam

https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/4620 ... ed-meshaal

Seguro que los ha matado Hamás? Que lo mismo decíais del festival aquel y luego resultó que había sido el ejército israelí que cuando duda de si alguien es víctima o agresor dispara primero y luego ya se verá

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Regshoe escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 13:42
Los niños muertos de Hamás también.

los niños israelies q no le importan q ha matado Hamas o los niños palestinos q ha matado Hamas y tp le importan?

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A Message to Khaled Meshaal
To Mr. Khaled Meshaal, I will address you as Abu Al-Walid. In your interview with Al Arabiya broadcaster, you touched on several issues, political, historical, and religious. Your rhetoric was neither coherent nor consistent, but like that of a messenger. I will not dwell on the political matters you discussed, as they are well-established.

Abu Al-Walid, I will focus on your religious rhetoric and your citations of the Holy Quran and the words of the Prophet - peace be upon him. I am not a preacher or a sheikh, but a father who fears that religion could be manipulated to misguide his children. I am worried that they might listen to you and believe that you are being truthful when you are not.

I say this because I have witnessed the various stages of your misleading and inciting discourse. Our experiences have taught us that these lies have misled youth into the abyss of terrorism and extremism, becoming fodder for failed battles. This happened from Afghanistan, which you take as a reference, to Palestine, whose cause you have tarnished.

Abu Al-Walid, you speak about the Prophet striking with the spade in the Battle of the Trench, forgetting that he stood spade in hand on the battlefield, surrounded by his Companions; he was not living a comfortable life in another country like you are in Doha.

You ask the "Ummah" to "play with fire" and march to the borders, while you are far away. Why don't you march to the borders of Gaza, even just to hand water out to those who have gone? Go and do it. If the Egyptian authorities prevent you; I promise to write an article condemning them for doing so.

And you cite the verse: "Permission has been granted to those being fought, for they have been wronged" - a Makkan-Medinan verse revealed to the Prophet in Medinah after he had spent 13 years in Makkah without calling for the use of force. The Prophet did not call for battle until after he had the support and strength of the Ansar (Supporters) in Medinah, and he did not recklessly send the Muslims to their demise. This verse was revealed in Medinah.

We are taught that the Prophet refused, when asked for permission to do so, to allow the killing of those who had harmed the Muslims in Makkah before the Hijrah (migration). The Almighty revealed the following verse to address this question: God does not love any of the treacherous, ungrateful ones.

When the family of Yasir was tortured, and Ammar witnessed the killing of his parents, the Prophet did not ask for revenge. Rather, he behaved like a great leader who sees the greater good. To prevent bloodshed, saying: "Patience, O family of Yasir! Your meeting place will be Paradise."

And you, Abu Al-Walid, did not fight the Israelis but the Palestinians themselves. The first thing you did after the Gaza elections was to throw members of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority off the rooftops; this is a documented fact.

These are the facts, Abu Al-Walid. Nothing can be more dangerous and harmful than taking matters out of their context in moments of passion, especially since honest people sympathize with the innocent people of Gaza not with you or Hamas.

Nothing is more dangerous than citing the Quran and the Prophet to mislead, especially through populist rhetoric that harms the reputation of Muslims and Islam, as Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had done.

I am not a sheikh but a father who worries for his children. I always teach them that the noble Prophet had set terms and ethics even for conflict. My advice, Abu Al-Walid, is thus that you focus on your adventures. Engage in them however you want, but do not throw the Quran, religion, and the Prophet into these discussions.

In conclusion, Salam

https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/4620 ... ed-meshaal

Seguro que los ha matado Hamás? Que lo mismo decíais del festival aquel y luego resultó que había sido el ejército israelí que cuando duda de si alguien es víctima o agresor dispara primero y luego ya se verá

el q acusa es usted, pero el último q atacó en un festival fue Hamas con ayuda de las brigadas de Al-Aqsa de Fatah y la Yihad entre otros, el festival por la paz Nova.

Colocar lanzaderas cerca de hospitales y colocar centro de mandos en sus sotanos no suele ser una buena idea, y arriesgarse a darle a un hospital tp parece preocupar mucho a Hamas o la Yihad islamica, Tp han tenido nunca problemas a la hora de disparar contra la central electrica q suministra electricidad a Gaza, y ya cuando disparan contra Dimona es para aplaudirles por la genialidad.

Pero bueno, teniendo en cuenta q gente como Mashal vive en Doha.

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑17 Nov 2023 07:36

los niños israelies q no le importan q ha matado Hamas o los niños palestinos q ha matado Hamas y tp le importan?




https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/4620 ... ed-meshaal

Seguro que los ha matado Hamás? Que lo mismo decíais del festival aquel y luego resultó que había sido el ejército israelí que cuando duda de si alguien es víctima o agresor dispara primero y luego ya se verá

el q acusa es usted, pero el último q atacó en un festival fue Hamas con ayuda de las brigadas de Al-Aqsa de Fatah y la Yihad entre otros, el festival por la paz Nova.

Colocar lanzaderas cerca de hospitales y colocar centro de mandos en sus sotanos no suele ser una buena idea, y arriesgarse a darle a un hospital tp parece preocupar mucho a Hamas o la Yihad islamica, Tp han tenido nunca problemas a la hora de disparar contra la central electrica q suministra electricidad a Gaza, y ya cuando disparan contra Dimona es para aplaudirles por la genialidad.

Pero bueno, teniendo en cuenta q gente como Mashal vive en Doha.

Pero que el mismo ejército israelí ha admitido haber disparado a civiles en ese festival.

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Lady_Sith escribió: ↑18 Nov 2023 05:04

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Regshoe escribió: ↑16 Nov 2023 13:42
Los niños muertos de Hamás también.

los niños israelies q no le importan q ha matado Hamas o los niños palestinos q ha matado Hamas y tp le importan?

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A Message to Khaled Meshaal
To Mr. Khaled Meshaal, I will address you as Abu Al-Walid. In your interview with Al Arabiya broadcaster, you touched on several issues, political, historical, and religious. Your rhetoric was neither coherent nor consistent, but like that of a messenger. I will not dwell on the political matters you discussed, as they are well-established.

Abu Al-Walid, I will focus on your religious rhetoric and your citations of the Holy Quran and the words of the Prophet - peace be upon him. I am not a preacher or a sheikh, but a father who fears that religion could be manipulated to misguide his children. I am worried that they might listen to you and believe that you are being truthful when you are not.

I say this because I have witnessed the various stages of your misleading and inciting discourse. Our experiences have taught us that these lies have misled youth into the abyss of terrorism and extremism, becoming fodder for failed battles. This happened from Afghanistan, which you take as a reference, to Palestine, whose cause you have tarnished.

Abu Al-Walid, you speak about the Prophet striking with the spade in the Battle of the Trench, forgetting that he stood spade in hand on the battlefield, surrounded by his Companions; he was not living a comfortable life in another country like you are in Doha.

You ask the "Ummah" to "play with fire" and march to the borders, while you are far away. Why don't you march to the borders of Gaza, even just to hand water out to those who have gone? Go and do it. If the Egyptian authorities prevent you; I promise to write an article condemning them for doing so.

And you cite the verse: "Permission has been granted to those being fought, for they have been wronged" - a Makkan-Medinan verse revealed to the Prophet in Medinah after he had spent 13 years in Makkah without calling for the use of force. The Prophet did not call for battle until after he had the support and strength of the Ansar (Supporters) in Medinah, and he did not recklessly send the Muslims to their demise. This verse was revealed in Medinah.

We are taught that the Prophet refused, when asked for permission to do so, to allow the killing of those who had harmed the Muslims in Makkah before the Hijrah (migration). The Almighty revealed the following verse to address this question: God does not love any of the treacherous, ungrateful ones.

When the family of Yasir was tortured, and Ammar witnessed the killing of his parents, the Prophet did not ask for revenge. Rather, he behaved like a great leader who sees the greater good. To prevent bloodshed, saying: "Patience, O family of Yasir! Your meeting place will be Paradise."

And you, Abu Al-Walid, did not fight the Israelis but the Palestinians themselves. The first thing you did after the Gaza elections was to throw members of Fatah and the Palestinian Authority off the rooftops; this is a documented fact.

These are the facts, Abu Al-Walid. Nothing can be more dangerous and harmful than taking matters out of their context in moments of passion, especially since honest people sympathize with the innocent people of Gaza not with you or Hamas.

Nothing is more dangerous than citing the Quran and the Prophet to mislead, especially through populist rhetoric that harms the reputation of Muslims and Islam, as Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had done.

I am not a sheikh but a father who worries for his children. I always teach them that the noble Prophet had set terms and ethics even for conflict. My advice, Abu Al-Walid, is thus that you focus on your adventures. Engage in them however you want, but do not throw the Quran, religion, and the Prophet into these discussions.

In conclusion, Salam

https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/4620 ... ed-meshaal

Seguro que los ha matado Hamás? Que lo mismo decíais del festival aquel y luego resultó que había sido el ejército israelí que cuando duda de si alguien es víctima o agresor dispara primero y luego ya se verá

el q acusa es usted, pero el último q atacó en un festival fue Hamas con ayuda de las brigadas de Al-Aqsa de Fatah y la Yihad entre otros, el festival por la paz Nova.

Colocar lanzaderas cerca de hospitales y colocar centro de mandos en sus sotanos no suele ser una buena idea, y arriesgarse a darle a un hospital tp parece preocupar mucho a Hamas o la Yihad islamica, Tp han tenido nunca problemas a la hora de disparar contra la central electrica q suministra electricidad a Gaza, y ya cuando disparan contra Dimona es para aplaudirles por la genialidad.

Pero bueno, teniendo en cuenta q gente como Mashal vive en Doha.